tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post114105027189021044..comments2023-10-06T18:25:29.548+02:00Comments on Just thinking...: Rhema vs. LogosWilliam Dickshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01211201729445913360noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-1429104660082180672018-10-06T21:48:53.530+02:002018-10-06T21:48:53.530+02:00Hi brother Michael, I just checked your two refere...Hi brother Michael, I just checked your two references. You are right. On the basis of the TEXTUS RECEPTUS. My Greek New Testament is the Nestle-Aland Edition, you have this one also on<br />https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/luk/22/61/t_conc_995061, quoted by you, further down. They call it the 'Morphological GNT'. So this is one of the slight differences in the manuscripts.<br />Which Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03804933403611045185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-64473411179003053512017-08-08T00:04:25.281+02:002017-08-08T00:04:25.281+02:00Hi William, I appreciate your work and heart to st...Hi William, I appreciate your work and heart to stay true to Scripture. I realize this is an old post, nevertheless it's still very relevant. I also have concerns about sound doctrine being diluted or overshadowed by the doctrines of men. I also understand and appreciate your concerns over church leadership and manipulation I have experienced it personally.<br /><br />I do like what Ryan (Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08323232658619987263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-88952986897969223502017-03-25T01:42:31.270+02:002017-03-25T01:42:31.270+02:00I was,just looking at Eph 6 where both words are u...I was,just looking at Eph 6 where both words are used in the same passage and the contexts suggests the same meaning of the verbal proclaimed word of God.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03089113889615607964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-39592404797939606392017-03-25T01:42:30.212+02:002017-03-25T01:42:30.212+02:00I was,just looking at Eph 6 where both words are u...I was,just looking at Eph 6 where both words are used in the same passage and the contexts suggests the same meaning of the verbal proclaimed word of God.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03089113889615607964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-50276264154685247742017-03-25T01:42:28.657+02:002017-03-25T01:42:28.657+02:00I was,just looking at Eph 6 where both words are u...I was,just looking at Eph 6 where both words are used in the same passage and the contexts suggests the same meaning of the verbal proclaimed word of God.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03089113889615607964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-61873944002013341762017-02-09T04:17:00.657+02:002017-02-09T04:17:00.657+02:00Hi Ralf, Thank you for your comment, I am always e...Hi Ralf, Thank you for your comment, I am always eager to learn. Now, I am not a Greek scholar by any means; but, I can use Strong's concordance; and that's just what I did. So, according to Strong's, my argument is completely valid and acceptable. Check it out for yourself- https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/26/75/t_conc_955075<br />https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/luk/22/61brother Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13916447465437189379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-26161589971081783992017-02-08T23:04:24.470+02:002017-02-08T23:04:24.470+02:00Dear brother Michael,
I just checked it out in my ...Dear brother Michael,<br />I just checked it out in my Greek Bible. Both Luke 22.61 as well as Mat 26.75 use the word rhema in its genitiv form rhematos.<br />So your argument cannot be accepted.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00158394486132358220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-63737006940853744232016-06-18T14:22:30.237+02:002016-06-18T14:22:30.237+02:00nice exegesis, bronice exegesis, broAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02239286993866123008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-27471768754833732712016-03-03T04:26:10.091+02:002016-03-03T04:26:10.091+02:00I don't really know much about this rhema and ...I don't really know much about this rhema and logos thing. I do believe the Holy Spirit at times speaks to us individually by "JUMPING" a bible verse at us while reading scripture. Shortly after I first got saved there were a few times a bible verse would seem to leap off the pages at me while reading. At that moment it was exactly what I needed and relevant to something I was goingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495188013364841876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-72764536307988092652016-03-03T04:25:48.262+02:002016-03-03T04:25:48.262+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495188013364841876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-49517941829486073642016-03-03T04:24:45.093+02:002016-03-03T04:24:45.093+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495188013364841876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-72710998840022482552015-03-08T11:41:31.902+02:002015-03-08T11:41:31.902+02:00Even though I stand by my comment, I concede that ...Even though I stand by my comment, I concede that there is room for this fact given in William's comment about synonyms as well:<br />Synonyms do not necessarily need to mean exactly the same all the time. Synonyms can cover different domains in which there can be variations, however, within the same context meanings are the same. When the context differs, the different nuances of synonyms brother Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13916447465437189379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-89634747947693576542015-03-08T11:26:42.651+02:002015-03-08T11:26:42.651+02:00It's seems to me that no one has really read m...It's seems to me that no one has really read my comment from Feb. 2012. It is truly what I see as ABSOLUTE PROOF that the words Logos and Rhema are indeed synonymous. Here's the PROOF once again--Luke 22:61; … And Peter remembered the word (LOGOS) of the Lord, how he had said unto him, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. Then take a look at this parallel verse in Mat. 26:75; brother Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13916447465437189379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-50680311106780826392015-03-08T09:55:04.631+02:002015-03-08T09:55:04.631+02:00According to lexicography from the late preeminent...According to lexicography from the late preeminent native-Greek scholar Spiros Zodhiates...<br /><br />Rhema is the thing spoken about; the subject matter as content or substance of all thought and speech.<br /><br />Logos is the intelligent expression of the Rhema, whether written or spoken.<br /><br />There are both Rhema and Logos in silence; but when there is expression, it is Logos.<br /><brPistisElpisAgapeCharisEleoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07143870976076808997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-1747537702483322722014-05-12T16:25:48.937+02:002014-05-12T16:25:48.937+02:00Good afternoon, thank you very much for sharing wi...Good afternoon, thank you very much for sharing with us this article/hard work from your end, I am especially thankful for this part of the conclusion: "One thing I have found is that rhema is never used to point to a quotation in the OT in the same way that logos is used" because I'm looking for what has been so far said on the nuances of rhemata and logous that both appear as Chikchapkwerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04935314198485091868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-81200943731895118492014-03-27T17:06:32.300+02:002014-03-27T17:06:32.300+02:00Thanks William. Even 8 years later this article o...Thanks William. Even 8 years later this article offers insight.<br /><br />As a person who has a Charismatic legacy, the force of differentiation between these words was used, at times and not by all, to create a new Gnosticism. The rhema-focused ministries touted a supremacy over classical orthodoxy. It was almost the birth of a mystery religion for some.<br /><br />Thank God He watches over Pastor Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07961218659063256338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-25959082832946992132013-10-28T18:54:44.699+02:002013-10-28T18:54:44.699+02:00 It is amazing that a theology can be built on som... It is amazing that a theology can be built on something so debated. IT is dangerous to base a theology on a controversial topic. <br /><br />I agree that the words are synonyms. The irregular verb of logos uses the roots of rhema. DJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16805954346279864668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-49365921532942265892013-06-23T13:51:19.756+02:002013-06-23T13:51:19.756+02:00Copying something from my Facebook page, which exp...Copying something from my Facebook page, which explains the difference between the two...<br /><br />In the KJV new testament, there are two Greek expressions translated into English as "word", --"rhema" and "logos". What's the difference? Rhema can mean written words or utterance/speech. Let me illustrate from Scripture: "every idle Rhema (word or utteranceAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05721201645493753670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-32938579370914144982013-05-24T15:42:49.555+02:002013-05-24T15:42:49.555+02:00You are welcome David J!You are welcome David J!William Dickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01211201729445913360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-25117811841864045402013-05-24T05:45:51.245+02:002013-05-24T05:45:51.245+02:00Great study, thanks for undertaking it. I suspect ...Great study, thanks for undertaking it. I suspect I have gone through a similar journey as yourself. I was in the process of writing a response to someone who couldnt understand why they couldnt understand the bible even though they have read it twice and after praying, I felt the Lord leading me to tell them you cannot understand the scripture without believing in Jesus. But coming from a Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09433510727118137289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-72422814291798013162012-08-25T18:28:40.951+02:002012-08-25T18:28:40.951+02:00Hi
Great study and I have to agree that the now po...Hi<br />Great study and I have to agree that the now popular Logos-Rhema distinction is misleading. However, equally (if not more) misleading is the popular, almost universal equation of "the Bible" with "the Word of God". The two are not entirely co-terminous. Jesus taught us to live by " every word" that proceeds from the mouth of God and He was in constant Pat O’Learyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01149803353385780284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-61285613176958502362012-08-20T18:25:50.934+02:002012-08-20T18:25:50.934+02:00One interesting thing to note is that in John 1, A...One interesting thing to note is that in John 1, Apostle John identifies Jesus as the Logos that became flesh. And in the Book of Revelation, the same Apostle John writes (Rev 19:13) ,"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The WORD(Logos G3056) of God,". I think that although both words like the author of this article writes, are synonymous but have Dionyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16996676343888250415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-42689118799290854732012-04-18T04:41:36.376+02:002012-04-18T04:41:36.376+02:00Thanks for this read mate. Well, this is my first ...Thanks for this read mate. Well, this is my first visit to your blog! But I admire the precious time and effort you put into it, especially into interesting articles you share here! <a href="http://www.dog-behavior-tips.com/news" rel="nofollow">Dog Training Tips</a> |<br /><a href="http://www.dog-behavior-tips.com" rel="nofollow">Dog Training</a>Izie Youhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049023591434923463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-80905142011591254742012-03-30T02:51:46.075+02:002012-03-30T02:51:46.075+02:00Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel...Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic. If possible, as you gain expertise, would you mind updating your blog with more information? It is extremely helpful for me.<a href="http://ipadcomparison.net" rel="nofollow">ipad or tablet</a> |<br /><a href="http://joomla16themes.net" rel="nofollow">free joomla templates 1.6</a>colt Axtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06439028433278513812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8334911.post-65039297521568822672012-02-18T07:58:39.065+02:002012-02-18T07:58:39.065+02:00Thanks for the thoughts, Michael!Thanks for the thoughts, Michael!William Dickshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01211201729445913360noreply@blogger.com