Friday, September 30, 2005
Thursday, September 29, 2005
The first album of theirs I bought back in 1984 was More Power to Ya. Believe it or not, but before I discovered Petra, my favourite group was The FisherFolk! Doesn't that crack you up? From Fisherfolk to Petra!
Then, in 1986 Petra released an album with their new and current lead singer John Schlitt, called Back to the Street. However, Beyond Belief (1990) is still one of my all time Petra favourites. I also really enjoyed their album of 1995, No Doubt. The last album they released is Jekyll & Hyde (2003).
Petra then went through many changes and the band as it is now only has one original member, Bob Hartman.
As far as can be ascertained the band looked as follows over the years:
Bob Hartman 1972-1995, 2003-Now
Greg Hough 1972-1978?
Rob Frazier 1979?
David Lichens 1995-1997
Kevin Brandow 1997-1999, 2000-2001
Pete Orta 1997-2000
Quinton Gibson 2002-2003
John Slick 1981-1983
John Lowry 1984-1994
Jim Cooper 1994-1997
Kevin Brandow 1997-1999
Trent Thomason 1999
Bryce Bell 2000-2003
Bill Glover 1972-1978?
Louie Weaver 1981-2003
Paul Simmons 2003-Now
John DeGroff 1972-1978?
Mark Kelly 1981-1987
Ronnie Cates 1988-1997
Lonnie Chapin 1997-2001
Mike Brandenstein 2001
Greg Bailey 2002-Now
Bob Hartman & Greg Hough 1972-1977
Greg X. Volz 1979-1985
John Schlitt 1986-Now
Petra's albums are as follows:
Petra - 1974
One more album will be made by Petra which will be a live album to be released by InPop Records on Nov 22. The album will be aptly called Petra: Farewell. Some of the old band members such as Greg X. Volz and Mark Lawry will also be there for this live recording.
I have immensely enjoyed the music of Petra. The technical ability of the musicians and singers have always been of a very high quality. Many bands in the "rock" genre have a kind of an empty sound musically. However, Petra's sound have always been what I called a "full" sound. Difficult to describe, but there you are!
It is sad to see them go, yet I will always remember them fondly!
Petra: Farewell and God bless!
Wednesday, September 28, 2005
1 MY son, if you will receive my words And treasure my commandments within you, 2 Make your ear attentive to wisdom, Incline your heart to understanding; 3 For if you cry for discernment, Lift your voice for understanding; 4 If you seek her as silver And search for her as for hidden treasures; 5 Then you will discern the fear of the LORD And discover the knowledge of God. 6 For the LORD gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding. 7 He stores up sound wisdom for the upright; He is a shield to those who walk in integrity, 8 Guarding the paths of justice, And He preserves the way of His godly ones. 9 Then you will discern righteousness and justice And equity and every good course. 10 For wisdom will enter your heart And knowledge will be pleasant to your soul; 11 Discretion will guard you, Understanding will watch over you, 12 To deliver you from the way of evil, From the man who speaks perverse things; 13 From those who leave the paths of uprightness To walk in the ways of darkness; (Prov 2:1-13 NASB)
1 WOE to those who enact evil statutes And to those who constantly record unjust decisions, 2 So as to deprive the needy of justice And rob the poor of My people of their rights, So that widows may be their spoil And that they may plunder the orphans. (Is 10:1-2 NASB)
10 Lovingkindness and truth have met together; Righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
14 Righteousness and justice are the foundation of Your throne; Lovingkindness and truth go before You.
8 If you see oppression of the poor and denial of justice and righteousness in the province, do not be shocked at the sight; for one official watches over another official, and there are higher officials over them. (Eccl 5:8)
" When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.  Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.  And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left.  Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.  For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,  I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.'  Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?  And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?  And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?'  And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'  "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.  For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,  I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.'  Then they also will answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?'  Then he will answer them, saying, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.'  And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." (Mat 25:31-46 ESV)
- Those babies that are being murdered every nine (9) minutes! In the USA a baby is murdered every 24 seconds! Since Roe v Wade in 1973 40,000,000 babies have been murdered via abortion!
- Those people--among whom are many children--that are being exposed to pornography on a daily basis!
- That widow that can no longer afford her rent because the government has decided to increase tax on property!
- That family that got wiped out by murderous thugs because the government sees no need for dealing with the crime in the country!
- Those poor children that must grow up thinking that they are no more worth than a bunch of apes, because the government policy says that evolution is true!
- Those poor people that can no longer survive each month because their jobs have been stolen from them by a government that pushes affirmative action!
- That poor mother that had to watch how deviant, evil men raped her daughter!
- Those unfortunate people that are growing up and living with no hope, thinking that stealing and a life of crime are the only methods to alleviate their problems; and, this because they have voted for a government that has been found to be completely inept in dealing with its economic doldrums or with the waves upon waves of crime sweeping across this country.
- Suppressing the truth
- Rejecting God
- Vain reasonings
- Senseless, darkened hearts
- Foolish hearts
- Professing their own wisdom
- Impure desires
- Exchanged the truth of God for a lie
- Worshipping creation
- Immoral sexual passions
- Changing the natural for the unnatural (homosexuality and lesbianism)
- Degraded minds
 Hammond Peter, http://www.christianaction.org.za/magazine_ca/2003-1-christians_changeworld.htm
 Closson, Don, Culture Wars, http://www.probe.org/docs/cultwars.html
Tuesday, September 27, 2005
Friday, September 23, 2005
3. The state may not unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds, including race, gender, sex, pregnancy, marital status, ethnic or social origin, colour, sexual orientation, age, disability, religion, conscience, belief, culture, language and birth.4. No person may unfairly discriminate directly or indirectly against anyone on one or more grounds in terms of subsection (3). National legislation must be enacted to prevent or prohibit unfair discrimination.5. Discrimination on one or more of the grounds listed in subsection (3) is unfair unless it is established that the discrimination is fair.
Thursday, September 22, 2005
 Renwick, A. M., The story of the church, Inter-Varsity Press, Bristol, Great Britain, Reprinted, 1977, p7.
 Schaff, Philip, History of the Christian Church: Volume 1 Apostolic Christianity From the Birth of Christ to the Death of St. John A.D. 1-100, Hendrickson Publishers, Peabody, MA, First printing--July 1996, p2.
 Cairns, Earle E., CHRISTIANITY THROUGH THE CENTURIES A History of the Christian Church, Revised and Enlarged Edition, Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, MI, Twenty-seventh printing (second revised edition), 1981, p13.
 Schaff, Volume 1, p3.
 Cairns, pp17-20.
 Ibid., p17.
 Ibid., pp17-18.
 Ibid., p18.
 Ibid., p18.
 Foxe, John, Foxe’s Book of Martyrs, Whitaker House, Springdale, PA, 1981, p19.
 Ibid., p21.
 Ibid., p22.
 Cairns, p19.
 Ibid., p19.
 Neff, David, ChristianityToday.com, Editor's Bookshelf: Getting Western Civ Right, http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/128/51.0.html.
 Gonzalez, xviii.
Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Sunday, September 18, 2005
In the September 2005 edition of Dave Hunt's newsletter called The Berean Call, Dave Hunt once again takes Calvinism to task about its so-called delusions.
Sure, there are some teachings in the traditionally Reformed doctrines that are at odds with the Bible, but Dave Hunt must ask himself if the same could not be said about Arminianism? It amazes me that he seems to think that Arminianism is the be-all and end-all. Is it not Arminianism that brought the Roman Catholic church down to the depths of hell, leading to the Reformation? Is it not also Arminianism that led to the malicious doctrines of the Word-of-Faith movement with such false teachers as Kenneth Copeland, Charles Capps and Benny Hinn?
The problem with Hunt is that it seems that he has no real answers against Calvinism! So far, every time I have read anything by Hunt on Calvinism it seems like a stuck record on a turn table. He just simply regurgitates the same stuff over and over again. James White from Alpha and Omega ministries has repeatedly communicated with Dave Hunt concerning Hunt's erroneous understanding of Calvinism and his lack of Biblical exegesis.
Dave Hunt, in my mind at least, is like someone who claims that the moon is blue when it clearly isn't! Many have written to Dave Hunt about his incendiary outbursts against Calvinists in order to show him the light. However, no man is as blind as those who refuse to see!
According to Hunt, Calvinists who have been Calvinists all their lives are not saved (p4). Those who were Arminians before becoming Calvinists are lucky enough to be saved! (p4) Thanks Your Highness Mr. Hunt for half the thumbs up! It seems that Arminianism saves!
Anyone who has read The Potter's Freedom and Debating Calvinism with any modicum of an open mind would clearly see how different the scholarly approaches are between James White and Hunt. By the way, James White is a Calvinist. At every turn White displays his scholarly approach with in-depth exegesis, while in Debating Calvinism--the written debate between White and Hunt--Hunt simply recites his flash cards over and over again. He still hasn't changed his flash cards since he still uses the same ol', same ol'. "A continual dripping on a rainy day and a quarrelsome wife are alike." (Pr 27:15 ESV) Hunt's incessant repetitiveness with no real in-depth exegesis is just like this irritating dripping tap that just doesn't want to stop.
With the tiniest amount of effort using a web search engine such as Google, one can find great exegetical works that show how erroneous our esteemed Mr. Hunt is!
Thursday, September 15, 2005
"But the matter did not stop there, for by that first sin Adam became the bond-servant of sin. That sin carried permanent pollution with it, and a pollution which, because of the solidarity of the human race, would affect not only Adam but all his descendants as well. As a result of the fall the father of the race could only pass on a depraved human nature to his offspring. From that unholy source sin flows on as an impure stream to all the generations of men, polluting everyone and everything with which it comes into contact."
"Negatively, it does not imply: (1) that every man is thoroughly depraved as he can possibly become; (2) that the sinner has no innate knowledge of the will of God, nor a conscience that discriminates between good and evil; (3) that sinful man does not often admire virtuous character and actions in others, or is incapable of disinterested affections and actions in his relations with his fellow-men; nor (4) that every unregenerate man will, in virtue of his inherent sinfulness, indulge in every form of sin; it often happens that one form excludes the other. Positively, it does indicate: (1) that the inherent corruption extends to every part of man’s nature, to all the faculties and powers of both soul and body; and (2) that there is no spiritual good, that is, good in relation to God, in the sinner at all, but only perversion. This total depravity is denied by Pelagians, Socinians, and seventeenth century Arminians, but is clearly taught in Scripture…Rom.7:18,23; 8:7; Eph. 4:18; II Tim. 3:2-4; Tit. 1:15."
"We are all sinners by nature, therefore we are held under the yoke of sin. But if the whole man is subject to the dominion of sin, surely the will, which is its principal seat, must be bound with the closest chains. And, indeed, if divine grace were preceded by any will of ours, Paul could not have said that "it is God which worketh in us both to will and to do" (Phil. 2:13). Away, then, with all the absurd trifling which many have indulged in with regard to preparation. Although believers sometimes ask to have their heart trained to the obedience of the divine law, as David does in several passages (Ps. 51:12), it is to be observed, that even this longing in prayer is from God. This is apparent from the language used. When he prays, "Create in me a clean heart," he certainly does not attribute the beginning of the creation to himself. Let us therefore rather adopt the sentiment of Augustine, "God will prevent you in all things, but do you sometimes prevent his anger. How? Confess that you have all these things from God, that all the good you have is from him, all the evil from yourself," (August. De Verbis Apost. Serm. 10)."
"Not only do we as sinners lack any spiritual good in ourselves, but we also lack the ability to do anything that will in itself please God and the ability to come to God in our own strength. Paul says that "those who are in the flesh cannot please God" (Rom. 8:8). Moreover, in terms of bearing fruit for God’s kingdom and doing what pleases Him, Jesus says, "Apart from me you can do nothing" (John 15:5). In fact, unbelievers are not pleasing to God, if for no other reason, simply because their actions do not proceed from faith in God or from love to him, and "without faith it is impossible to please him" (Heb. 11:6). When Paul’s readers were unbelievers, he tells them, "You were dead through the trespasses and sins in which you once walked" (Eph. 2:1-2). Unbelievers are in a state of bondage or enslavement to sin, because "every one who commits sin is a slave to sin" (John 8:34). Though from a human standpoint people might be able to do much good, Isaiah affirms that "all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment" (Isa. 64:6; cf. Rom. 3:9-20). Unbelievers are not even able to understand the things of God correctly, for the "natural man does not receive the gifts [lit. ‘things’] of the Spirit of God, for they are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14 RSV mg.). Nor can we come to God in our own power, for Jesus says "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him" (John 6:44)."
Jer 17:9 The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? (NASB)
Ps 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth. (NASB)
Ps 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me. (NASB)
21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. (NASB)
"This litany of quotations [from the Bible] is specifically designed to have one effect: to shatter, destroy, and obliterate any last shred of self-righteousness that might remain after the preceding arguments have been understood. These testimonies are fatal to any kind of "optimistic humanism." Outside of God's grace, man is a corrupted creation, violent, hateful, without understanding, without fear of God. Rather than finding in man "seekers" who simply need a "nudge" in the right direction, Scripture tells us that man does not understand and does not seek after God. Man is deceitful, even with himself, and is quick to curse God. Total depravity painted in the most vivid colors."
5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. (Rom 8:5-8 NASB)